Talk:Ethel

Ethel's quest appearance
I personally think "Ethel not appearing in side quests and asension quests" is also unique to Ethel and should be added in, here is the rundown of every hero's quest appearance as follows:
 * Ethel's only appearance outside of her own quest is Cammuravi's hero quest, and not even in her original term.
 * Zeon has side quest Chain in Colony 9.
 * Valdi appears in Alexandria's asension quest and has side quest chain in Colony 30.
 * Teach has side quest Teach's Teachers appears in a side quest given from Ashera Festival of War.
 * Riku & Mana appears multiple side quests, including Dorrin Bambam's side quest chain, uniting seven nopon side quests, and Side Story: Eunie.
 * Gray has a side quest Lovebirds in the City.
 * Isurd appears in Valdi's side quest Dorrick is Online! and Side Story: Taion.
 * Juniper appears in Zeon's asension quest and has multiple side quests.
 * Ashera has a side quest where she meets teach, Festival of War.
 * Alexandria appears in Valdi's side quest Dorrick is Online!.
 * Monica appears in Side Story :Sena, Miyabi's and Gray's asension quest, and side quest The Key to a New Home.
 * Fiona has side quest chain, and the correct hero to recruit for An Artist quest.
 * Triton has side quest chain, and appears in one of Fiona's side quest Treasured Memory.
 * Ghondor appears in Miyabi's asension quest and 2 side quests.
 * Miyabi appears in Side Story: Mio.
 * Cammuravi appears in Side Story: Mio.
 * Segiri has side quest chain in the Central Cell.

As you see every hero except Ethel has appearance at least in either one side quest or asension quest.

Post game heros such as Melia and Nia and DLC heroes such as Masha and Ino aren't added because they're special heroes where you can only recruit them by finishing the story and purchase the expansion pass respectively.

However, due to some consider this trivia unnecessary and could bloat the trivia section. Therefore this won't be added anytime soon. Any suggestions, explanation or advice is welcomed. --Monado mario (talk) 09:17, 12 March 2023 (EDT)
 * As soon as you have to add exceptions to a trivia point, the trivia becomes less interesting and harder to justify. "DLC doesn't count" is fair enough. "Post-game doesn't count" is harder to justify. "Cammuravi's doesn't count" is badly pushing it. At that point I don't think it's good trivia. STM (t) 11:17, 12 March 2023 (EDT)
 * I agree we don't need that much trivia.--Dragon146 (talk) 11:19, 12 March 2023 (EDT)
 * Yes dlc heroes can be excluded, but post game heroes should too because they're unrecruitable until finishing the story. That being said I don't understand why the trivia "Ethel and cammuarvi having same asension condition" keeps getting removed though. It is unique to the two heroes, and has nothing to with this topic. --Monado mario (talk) 12:01, 12 March 2023 (EDT)
 * The bit about sharing an ascension condition is probably fine IMO, but the rest is way too specific. While we don't have any guideline secifically for trivia, Smashwiki has a pretty good one here that you can use to compare if it's worthy enough. "...post game heroes should too because they're unrecruitable until finishing the story." So what? They're still heroes baked right into the game that don't have any particular reason not to appear in other heroes' ascension quests. If you have to cherrypick too many of these conditions, it's simply not worth putting on the wiki. Reggimato (talk) 12:09, 12 March 2023 (EDT)
 * Thank you so much for the Smash wiki trivia page! And alright I will admit that Ethel not appearing in any other quest definitely checks the "complexity". But for both sharing asension condition, that is definitely interesting and noteworthy, because only Ethel and Cammuravi do not have asension quest and shares the same asension condition. --Monado mario (talk) 12:15, 12 March 2023 (EDT)
 * After consideration, I think perhaps the trivia can be added in Cammuravi's Hero quest page "A Twist of Fate" instead as "This is Ethel's only quest appearance outside of her own hero quest" --Monado mario (talk) 19:35, 12 March 2023 (EDT)

Ascension Trivia migrate proposal
Despite Ethel and Cammuravi share same ascension counts as trivia, in order to avoiding bloating Ethel's trivia section and reduce redundancy, should the trivia be migrate to the Hero page?--Monado mario (talk) 22:52, 12 March 2023 (EDT)