Template talk:TTGC OST Navbox

Should Kiara's Song be included in the navbox? Normally tracks seem to only be included in one navbox, but this is a special case — it's not on any OST and I don't see any particularly strong reason it should go in the XC2 box over the TTGC one or vice versa. (My instinct is to include it in both, and I don't really see any reason why it shouldn't, but if others strongly disagree it can be removed.) Rtg142857 (talk) 01:19, 5 April 2021 (EDT)
 * Personally I believe that all these songs should be part of a single article names "List of environmental songs (XC2/TTGC)" or something like that. I don't think they're important enough to get their own article, and that way you don't need to mark each article as a stub (Because they aren't really). But if we do keep them in separate articles, think abou it this way: If a song appears in both the main game and Torna, shouldn't each of these normal Xenoblade 2 songs also be listed in the Torna navbox? Reggiamoto (talk) 08:27, 5 April 2021 (EDT)
 * My thinking was that the point of the navbox is exactly that — for navigation. If someone is going to the navbox it's probably because they're looking for a related page. Now for tracks on either one of the OSTs, this would be mostly for convenience, because the OST pages themselves have all the links as well. But for tracks not on the OSTs it becomes necessary if one wants to look for their pages. Therein lies the difference — if someone's looking for (say) A Brewing Storm because they heard it in Torna, a quick check through the OST pages will let them find it. But if someone's looking for the piece Leo and Azzarn play, it's going to be very difficult for them to find unless it's on the Torna navbox because it's non-obvious that the same track would be used in the main game. Condensing the environmental tracks to a single article is a good option. I'm guessing, if we do that, that Kiara's song should still have an independent article (that links to and is linked from said environmental tracks article), because it is after all a cutscene theme. If we do go down that route, then my guess is that it'd probably be best to have it in both navboxes, for the above reason. There is another option — merge the TGC and XC2 OST navboxes, in a similar setup to what XC1 and FC currently have. It'd make the navbox somewhat bigger, although not substantially bigger than it is now, but it'd make navigation all the more convenient for someone currently on a TGC page looking for a track on the XC2 OST (because it featured in Torna or otherwise). Rtg142857 (talk) 11:49, 5 April 2021 (EDT)
 * Yes, I would have also proposed to merge the XC2 and TTGC navboxes. It only adds one more row, comparable to what Future Connected did to the XC1 OST navbox. However, I disagree with giving Kiara's song its own article. Yes, it plays in a cutscene, but doesn't Ursula's Song do so too? They're all similar enough to be put in one article, I'd say. Reggiamoto (talk) 11:57, 5 April 2021 (EDT)
 * Ursula's song isn't ever used as an environmental theme, it's only a cutscene theme, so it wouldn't fit in a page with all the environmental tracks; and if it gets its own page, then I'd say Kiara's song should get its own page too (in addition to being mentioned on the environmental music page). Alternatively, there could be a page for general 'Music not on any OST' which would include Ursula's, Kiara's, and the buskers' songs, although that seems maybe a bit too wide a categorisation for a single page. If we were to condense specifically the environmental music to a single page (which I am not opposed to doing) then I'd think Ursula's and Kiara's songs should still remain separate for that reason. Either way, if you'd also like to merge the XC2 and TTGC OST navboxes, then I see no reason not to — it'd probably have to have a different heading though (maybe including links to the OST pages in the groups). Rtg142857 (talk) 14:01, 5 April 2021 (EDT)