Talk:Hero

hero quest and ascension quest inclusion
Should the list also add the hero quest and ascension quest for each heroes?--Monado mario (talk) 22:55, 12 March 2023 (EDT)

Do only recruited Hero appear in the final battle?
Does anyone know is it only recruited heroes will appear in the final battle against Z? I remember one user pointed out that Ethel only will appear in the final battle only if she rejoins as hero. --Monado mario (talk) 18:25, 14 March 2023 (EDT)
 * We do indeed know the logic for who shows up (see here), but it's a bit complex and I don't think this would be the correct page to put it on. STM (t) 18:35, 14 March 2023 (EDT)
 * I see, however I saw a minor contradiction in the article, it says DLC heros won't appear yet later it says Ino and Segiri will always be on X side. And I could have sworn I saw ino when I was playing the final battle a week ago (don't quote me on that though). For now I'll just leave the trivia as it is.--Monado mario (talk) 18:53, 14 March 2023 (EDT)

"Heroes that can never be fought by the party" Trivia.
Riku & Manana, Nia and Melia are indeed the three heroes (not include dlc heroes) that never be fought by party, or are never an enemy in main story, hero quests, asension quests, and DLC challenge battle.

However the trivia has one minor flaw, if not including dlc challenge then Monica and Fiona also never fought by the party either in their own Hero quest or main story. But Monica and Fiona can be (fought) in Heroes Frontline challenge So should does this trivia still stands? Or how can it be refined? --Monado mario (talk) 01:59, 30 March 2023 (EDT)
 * This trivia has to note two exceptional groups, those being "some heroes become fightable in DLC" and "DLC heroes don't count". And then there's the question of whether fighting the Lambda Ferronis should actually count as fighting Isurd or not (if not then he joins the "becomes fightable in DLC" group). At that point we have 3 for-sures and 5 exceptions out of 21, and I think that's just not special enough proportion-wise to be trivia. STM (t) 23:29, 30 March 2023 (EDT)
 * From my own understanding, "fought by the party" means it includes every single battle and regardless of the form, whether it's in main story, hero quest, ascension quests, side quests, and dlc challenge. So in my opinion there's no need to think too much with this trivia, especially with Isurd. For now just mention the 3 for-sure Heroes is enough to suffice as a trivia as long as don't over think about it,but that's just me.--Monado mario (talk) 00:08, 31 March 2023 (EDT)
 * It's not "overthinking" to work on deciding whether something is worth including. If we don't make a solid decision on it, future editors will believe they need to, and that's how we get edit wars. STM (t) 08:57, 31 March 2023 (EDT)
 * I definitely understand your concern. Nonetheless I personally think the trivia can leave it as it is unless future dlc and update does add any of the 3 heroes into the challenge battle. However if you think it isn't worth a trivia, it's fine to remove it too. --Monado mario (talk) 10:39, 31 March 2023 (EDT)